Jim Webber: "Business people are spaghettiheads!"

Thursday 29 May, 2008 (Architecture | Interviews | SOA)

This is a guest post by Herbjörn Wilhelmsen @ Objectware

After working for years with business people and SOA Jim Webber has come around to thinking that fighting against real world complexity is neither successful nor valuable.

Dr Jim "World Wide" Webber - an author as well as global architecture lead for Thoughtworks - gave an interview last month after finishing his "Guerilla SOA" presentation at the Developer Summit 2008 conference in Stockholm.

Watch the interview to see Jim Webber

• Say that business people are spaghettiheads, tell us why business people scare him and that business people should be the architects of our projects!
• Come down hard on message oriented middleware (ESB’s) and WSDL
• Give his definition of a what a service should be
• Talk about why MEST and SSDL makes for better SOA
• Describe how MEST and SSDL helps you handle versioning problems in an SOA
• Talk about his next big thing: Middleware! (despite his grudge for ESB’s)

Jim does a great job - he explains things that seem contradictory in a very smooth and straightforward way and in the end you just can't help yourself: You have to like him!

Thanks for the interview Jim!

I also want to thank my colleague Joshua Anthony (the owner of this blog) for standing behind the camera and doing a lot of post production work!

Update:
During the interview Jim talked about the SOYA project and a case study. Here are some links:

• SOYA @ sourceforge
• A description of the LIXI case study can be found inside Patric Fornasier’s master thesis

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